Archive for Genealogy

Burkhart and Bielriet

The oldest, proven member of the counts of Comburg-Rothenburg counts was BURKHART. He was mentioned in the Oehringen letter of endowment. Burkhart probably belonged to the second or third generation of the family. He lived on Comberg, which was purchased by a count RICHARD von Rothenburg from the bishop of Augsburg around the year 1000.
There were 3 brothers of the Comberg counts who lived on Comberg during the middle of the 11th century:
Count EMEHARD a very close supporter of Emperor Heinrich III did rather well in establishing churches. Emerhard remained childless.
The Bielrieter twig of the family is descended from his brother RUGGER. The same Bielriet lineage is also the root of the Veinau’s.
The third brother RICHARD was the father of the Comburg generation.
After the ancestral castle was transformed into a monastery of the Benedictine monks in 1079, Rugger was, for some time, the administrator of the Comburg monastery.
One of the SALISH inheritable estates, among others, was ROTHENBURG.
Excerpt from a research report describing the history of Grosscomburg. Author Ulrice Plate. Made public in a yearbook 1994 of the “Historical Society of Wuerttembergic Franconia. Volume 78.”

Die Edlen von Veinau

The nobles of Veinau are a tribe with the sex of the nobles of Bielriet. You are should be numbered among the oldest noble families of local area and had ansehliche possessions.
Already in 1057 we find a Adelbert von Bielriet, this enters the monastery Comburg and given away in 1078 next to a part of the castle Bielriet and semi Croeffelbach more significant possessions.
The stronghold of the nobles of Veinau stood in the so-called armed bush on the boundary Veinau at Sr. Hall.
1288 they enter into the story for the first time .
After the beginning of the 14th Century had sold their possessions in Veinau , they settled in the territory of the Lords of Hohenlohe and were their vassals. When they get them rich fief to Kocher and Jagst . Alone in the upper office Künzelsau are as possessions mentioned in Crispenhofen, Diebach, Dörzbach, Eichelshof, Hertwigsweiler ( departed ), Guthof , Rohrtal ( departed ), Ingelfingen , Zottishofen , Weissenbach , Lower Hall and other goods.
In a document dated 6.Jan.1288 appear : Jutta von Veinau ux Marquard of Wüstenau Ottilie von Veinau ux Albrecht von Crailsheim, Heinrich von Veinau ux Adelheid , they enter their goods in Zottishofen and Ilshofen to her sister Gertrude of Veinau , Heinrich Michel field ‘s widow from . 1298 and 1305 are mentioned Guta ( Jutta ) and Marquard of Wüstenau .

Parish register research

The next step is to find the ancestors in the church books.

The church records in Germany start at different times. Very old church books are mainly in Catholic areas. Most church records begin, however, only in the period after the 30 Years War, so after 1648.

Here we must first of all identify, are the location in which the church books, which one would like to see.

The best way is to turn to the right, the parish. On the telephone-CD’s can be found in the respective locality in “Parish” the relevant parish offices, their addresses and phone numbers. This can be clarified often basic questions with the responsible minister:

Are the church records available at the Rectory?
When will the church records?
Can the church records can be viewed on site and at what times?
Located on site a person who researches often in the church books and can give evtl.Hilfestellung?
Are there any of the church records Verkartungen or Ortsfamilienbuch?
There exists a local chronicle?

Many so-called national churches, church groups or dioceses have partially centralized archives, which are generally available to the public. Here one can not usually work on the originals, but only gets the microfilming.

So, having his first appointment in a parish, so certain things should be considered in every case. I assume that you have your documents if any are ordered, that we find a quick introduction to the research:

In the church records it is not birth, marriage and death registers, but baptism, marriage and burial books. These mainly include the ecclesiastical duties. In most cases, however, birth and death dates are given. Older books are found almost exclusively on the other hand, the baptismal and burial data.
Continue to exist confirmation books in Catholic areas also Communion and Confirmation books.
In the most recent church records, i.e. From about 1830 there are people register. This, of course, facilitate the search of his ancestors. If church records without registers exist, one should ask the pastor if of these books exist elsewhere register.
Now, one should perform his search systematically. If you search for a birth, you can make on the basis of these persons may register quickly identified. However, where the searched name but a so-called “default” in this place, to begin the first problems already. As the default name refers to names which appear increasingly in the village. In almost every town there are such names.
In the search should not be limited to the direct ancestors, but also more in touch with the siblings of the ancestors. This has the advantage that you can eliminate any confusion later easier. Furthermore, resulting from the inclusion of siblings is often a clue to other researchers who are looking for the same name.
Once you have found the birth, so one should look next after the marriage record of the parents of the baptized. Usually the marriage is almost a year before the birth of their first child.

The next step is to find the burial information of parents. As long as the books are equipped with registers, the search should not be too difficult. In the book there are death funeral and burial date, cause of death and the exact age of the deceased, eg with the indication of 72 years 5 months 3 days. Thus, the birth can be calculated easily. Remember, however, that pastors were not necessarily mathematical geniuses. One should, if the birth is not found immediately, and even two or three years ago, and looking after the calculated date. Often found in the burial books only an indication of the age, such as 54 years. Without further notice for the month and day Should not recalculated here encounter the birth of the deceased will likely come from a different locality. Here are the particulars of the godfathers in the baptized children to be evaluated.
If you manage not to go to a rectory in person, whether of time or distance reasons, so you write a letter to the local parish.

It should be noted that it describes exactly his problem. The pastors are almost all amateurs in the field of genealogy. The more precise you get portrayed the relationship, the sooner even a layman can think into the question inside.
Be in a nice, polite manner, they spread the issue is not too far off. Set no deadline! A short sentence with the word “…. I would love to hear from you soon …” is acceptable.

The letter should be accompanied by a self-addressed and stamped envelope so that copies without effort and costs can be returned. A note on the acquisition anfllender costs should also be there. The pastor must be otherwise inquire about the reimbursement only and clarify this point. This costs time and possibly money again. Enter any of your letter: “If the cost of the frame 50, – should not exceed Euro (or other assets), please get back to me first.”

Cash or a check in the envelope is not necessary to send along! It is useless and does not accelerate auc processing the request. They utilize the parish only under pressure.

Investigation by authorities

When interviewing the relatives is complete, stands before the next step: contacting the registrar’s office. Important to know is that there are registry offices in Germany about since 1874. All Individual data before 1874 are to be found in so-called parish registers of the respective localities. The registry offices manage the entire civil status in Germany. There are birth, marriage and death registers.

A major problem is the hierbeit Policy. The Data Protection Act states that no citizen can get extracts from the records of the registry office, unless he has a legitimate interest. Since the study of one’s ancestry a ‘legitimate interest’, obtained with respect to the registrar’s office provide information – but the evidence must be provided that it is itself a descendant of the people from whom you want to receive data.

It is important that we know from the place where the ancestors came from. Only then can you write a letter to the local Standesmat.

Sample letter:

To: the registry office in Anytown
Re:. Documents from the registry office registers

Ladies and Gentlemen,

For some time I am doing genealogical research.

My paternal grandfather John Smith comes from Model City, where he is born on 01/02/1890. It also transpires from my family records that his father, Maximilian Smith, and his mother is Anna Mathilde nee Meyer. Of the latter two I have no data.
I ask you now to send me by the birth record of my grandfather a copy. Should be in your books and records, the death of my great-grandparents can find, so please send me a copy of this also.

For privacy reasons, as I am out with my passport: number 1234567890, issued by the City of Anytown.
The requisite fees I will transfer directly after sending the documents.

For your trouble I would like right now thank you very much.

Sincerely yours

The registry offices typically provide a copy of the books, including legalization stamps. The prints are based on fees and are in the single digit Euro range. The certificate entries are usually performed very accurately and provide information on further guidance to our ancestors:

– Birth certificates contain information on date of birth and details of parents.
– Marriage certificates contain indication of civil marriage, the age of the bride and groom and their parents.
– Death certificates contain the exact dying day, the age of the deceased and indicating the place of birth and date.

Some registry offices can be a lot of time with processing such requests. Here’s some patience. Depending on the size of the civil Mates it can take between 1 and 4 weeks.

Sort documents by system

Interviewing family members is leaving a quickly lose the overview. It is very important to make notes to statements, data and information.

You should probably run a stapler and gives each family member a name. Each family should have its own folder. The main points of these discussions are put down and attached it only times. Gradually, you get a lot of information together. These rules facilitate the work later and you can read the writing and possibly discuss obscure points again. If you want, then in this context also write stories and experiences. For pure data structure comes with a bit of life in the family history.

To regain all his ancestors, there is a simple and effective system that brings order to his ancestors. Stephan Kekulé von Stradonitz invented in 1898 a numbering ancestors, the world will still apply. In common parlance, refers to this classification system as Pedigree-Atlas or numbering after Kekulé.

Ancestry numbering after Kekulé
The starting point of the ancestor list you yourself or the person from whom the ancestor list goes out. This person is numbered 1 Parents get the numbers 2 and 3 It should be noted that all the male ancestors always an even number and an odd female ancestors receive Tree number. Accordingly, therefore, the Father is the number 2, the mother of the number 3 In the next generation, the generation of grandparents, hence the numbers 4-7. Here are the paternal grandparents, the numbers 4 and 5, the maternal grandparents, the numbers 6 and 7 So it is then generation after generation. A doubling of the numbers plus 1 is the next generation.

As one begins to research his family?

Sure everyone was already an old shoe box or a box of cigars from his grandparents in hand, filled with old pictures and documents. On long winter evenings when they told us stories about these images. Therefore strictly-looking ladies with large hats and heavy clothes, men with large cylinders and goatee, standing stiffly in front of a monster of a flower vase looked at us from these pictures. These were all stories from another time. …

Years later we discovered in old chests and boxes again this ancient treasures of childhood. The interest in their own past and the ancestors had been awakened. However, today many stories blurred and the context is missing. Now it is up to us to complete this puzzle. But the crucial question remains: “How do you start now the Genealogy”?

Now begins a hobby that will accompany one life.

interviewing relatives
On top of all research is the collection of documents of the family. Whenever possible, parents and relatives are asked for data that may be relavant. These include:

– Certificates of parents, grandparents and great-grandparents present (birth certificate, death certificate, Registry, wedding dates, children, etc.)
– Are there records of a family member who has already researched?
– What are other relatives and where they live?

In summary: It has exhausted every resource and the results are recorded, so it is not lost. Even if some things seem trivial. The more information about the ancestors are present, the more accurate, a match can be found.

Source: See Rolf Nowak (c)


The genealogy is common in many families. At some point, the question arises – where I come from – where do I go. Since we often know only our grandparents and great-grandparents might nocht it’s hard to go further afield. While there are registry offices Krichenbücher – but makes hardly a bother and beats all night. All the more it is a pleasure when someone over the years dealing with his genealogy. Manfred Feinauer has done this and is down to many town halls in the region and has also repeatedly taken insight into ancient writings. The help of the Mormons who have run for religious reasons Genealogy him here also helped a lot. The Mormons have a large database. In their belief, there is salvation for the departed souls only for those around the person you make your bed and which commemorates by name. So the work of the Mormons has been a great help in the genealogy of my grandfather.

What is Genealogy today?
With the help of the Internet, many databases open up quickly. Meta search engines can filter name and online software can create whole family trees. That is helpful. An album or a label in the monastery replaced not because each enters only his pedigree. And this is often quickly exhausted because he already ends with the grandparents or great-grandparents.

Not everyone dreams of a tree that is completely from the root up to a self, his own offspring? The crown is large and yet there are innumerable for a self a main branch, a root. I remember my family tree. This goes back to the year 1200. He is at its outermost point 10 meters but less than 30 cm deep. This means that a family tree is very fast in the width – but the depth is quite narrow.

New webpage online

After a long break has now been revised as part of a change in the web-hosting. The previous site was after the death of Manfred Feinauer stand and was not updated for several years now. As this site has an interesting topic and is also important for other genealogists I will fill the website with more information. In memory of my grandpa I converted this site. Unfortunately, the genealogy is a time consuming hobby or life lesson. Therefore, there is no daily changes. I would be happy but on advice and information. Especially the name Feinauer.

The records of my grandfather are still intact and saved digitally. If there are questions, there is certainly a possibility of cooperation.